Political blog readers know that Condi Rice recently lost it.
Asked about her role advancing torture during the Bush administration in a meeting with college students, Rice claimed that no torture occurred in Guantanamo (false); Al Qaeda poses a greater threat than the axis in World War II (dubious); and -- this was big -- the President can make an act legal by authorizing it (official Frost/Nixon alert). Along the way, Rice also berated one college student, chiding him to "do your homework first" and read a report supporting her views -- an exchange that was unbecoming and uncomfortable to watch.
Harpers' Scott Horton already demolished Rice's arguments, so I won't repeat his points here. But this incident also shows the prospects for what we might call a substantive Macaca Moment - using YouTube and citizen media to scrutinize our leaders on the issues, not gaffes.
The riveting video of Rice was a collaborative citizen project, from start to finish. Stanford students Jeremy Cohn and Sammy Abusrur asked Rice the intelligent, pointed questions that drew such revealing responses, while their classmate Reyna Garcia shot the video and uploaded it to YouTube. Garcia is no-nonsense. She simply titled the video "Condoleeza Rice meets with some students," instructed visitors to "keep comments civil," and announced that "all rights to this video belong to me, Reyna Garcia."
The seven-minute clip quickly drew 150,000 views, shot up to the top of Rice videos on YouTube, and jumpstarted traditional media coverage. Blogs pounced. Law professor Jack Balkin, who runs an influential legal blog, banged out a quick analysis of the claim that an act isn't torture if "Bush ordered it." The Washington Post ran an item about how the "riled" former secretary of state was "caught on tape" giving a "finger-wagging" torture defense to students. Online radio host Cenk Uyger picked up the clip with a YouTube commentary, "Condi Rice Pulls a Nixon," that drew over 100,000 views. The next day, Keith Olbermann devoted a segment to broadcasting and discussing Garcia's video on MSNBC.
Watching the video, however, it is striking to contrast how this civil, mildly persistent questioning from college students generated more pressure - and answers - than many of the professional television interviews Rice has done. Scott Horton also flagged this dynamic:
For eight years, Condoleezza Rice dealt with the Beltway punditry and the access-craving White House press corps. The reception she got, with a handful of exceptions, was fawning. Which leaves her totally unprepared for a return to an academy populated with the Daily Show generation: bright young minds with a very critical attitude towards the last eight years.
It would have barely mattered, of course, if the audience were limited to the few people physically present in that classroom. But this generation knows how to ask questions and get the word out. For government officials who oversaw war crimes, that could make life outside of Washington a little more trying.
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Access
Maybe access makes a big difference in how the media "elite" in Washington approach people like Rice. I saw Andrea Mitchell on Hardball tonight and she was unconvincingly trying to explain away Rice's remark as innocent. It seemed like she was trying to stay on Rice's good side for future interviews. Maybe because the students don't care whether Rice gives them access in the future, they were more aggressive and willing to ask tough questions.
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Macaca Moment?
Maybe I'm missing your comparison, but I really don't see it. The "Macaca" video was a candidate for public office making what many perceived to be a racist comment to a largely Caucasian crowd in an attempt to appeal for their vote. It was created by and disseminated by another campaign.
I fail to see a) what similarity this has and b) what this has to do with the stated objective of this site. Since Condi is not a candidate, not running for anything, and not on a ballot anywhere, this seems more like an attempt to use TP as a forum for partisan "gotcha" posts.
I'd seriously rethink the use of this forum for stuff like this.
Process comparison
The comparison is to process: Technology enables a public figure's statement in one context to be rebroadcast in another context for a much wider audience, without relying on the traditional media.
The fact that Rice "is not a candidate, not running for anything, and not on a ballot anywhere," does not reduce her relevance as a former government official and prominent political figure. If anything, as a person out of government, the public now has more direct access to her and more opportunities to use citizen media and technology to question and scrutinize her.
I can see your argument...
but I don't see how that's "a macaca moment".
Some might say "to rebroadcast it out of context". That's perfectly legitimate. But public officials making off the cuff remarks isn't merely the purview of YouTube. Public officials have been dinged for gaffes since the early days of the Republic. Look at Reagan's "we begin bombing in five minutes" incident.
The "Macaca Moment" was about racism and pandering, not simply about some guy filming an elected official. To label it as you did, evokes a memory of a specific incident that has nothing to do with the Condi clip.
"Substantive 'Macaca'"
Just wanted to put those two words together...
Seriously, I think Ari is using "Macaca moment" to mean, a moment when a public figure is captured on video saying something that is revealing, and then the wheels of media/activism/politics/viral sharing start spinning and that captured moment gets amplified and rises to some degree of national attention. While Mike is right that originally it refers to an event where a candidate for office was caught using a racist term and pandering to his audience, in this context and with the addition of the word "substantive" Ari is arguing that Rice was captured saying things that now may well damn her, either in the court of public opinion or in a real court.
By the way, if Rice is being dinged for a "gaffe" (a la Reagan's bombing joke), why no apology or demurral from her about what she actually said in this video?
I think Ari's right to be bringing this incident to our attention because it's a valid illustration of how citizen journalists armed with handheld cameras and using YouTube can press public officials (and former Secretaries of State definitely fall in that category) on matters of great public interest. It's also interesting because it suggests that the professional media, which often treats such folks with much more courtesy, may find itself supplanted by citizens who simply want answers and don't care about future access, since they aren't making a living from having access to such folks.
The Danger in that sentiment
While that sounds feasible, let me introduce another possible outcome. What if, instead, elected officials - fearing gotcha videos posted online - simply refuse to get drawn into discussions with actual citizens and instead only interact with the media?
I can easily see a scenario where the net result of this "in your face" journalism is the creation of a protected chattering class that doesn't answer to anyone but each other. If that sounds like the current scenario, multiply it by ten.
Why would public or even semi-public officials bother to answer any questions from the "citizen journalists" if the result is the YouTubization of public discourse?
Having worked in journalism
Having worked in journalism before, I do believe that traditional interviewers are somewhat reserved in their questioning for the simple reason that if they get a reputation as an attack dog nobody will consent to be interviewed by them. So in that sense, yes, politicians and other public figures do use the media just as the media uses them.
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Process comparison
The comparison is to process: Technology enables a public figure's statement in one context to be rebroadcast in another context for a much wider audience, without relying on the traditional media.
The fact that Rice "is not a candidate, not running for anything, and not on a ballot anywhere," does not reduce her relevance as a former government official and prominent political figure. If anything, as a person out of government, the public now has more direct access to her and more opportunities to use citizen media and technology to question and scrutinize her.
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You gotta wonder...
With eight years to quiz Dr. Rice, the popular media never laid a glove on her. She danced, obfuscated, pandered, and lied her way through with nary a raised eyebrow. Her statements were jotted down faithfully, repeated verbatim, and treated with just a shade less deference than the Curia treats papal bulls.
In seven minutes, three students who refused to be buffaloed turn Dr. Rice into rice pudding. I wonder if David Gregory, George Stephanopolous, Brian Williams, Katie Couric, Charles Gibson, Bob Schieffer, or any of the rest of the overpaid news readers posing as reporters infesting our airwaves and cable channels got an eyeful? Just to see how it's done?
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